Photoshop Generative Fill

[Hatter]

No-one seems to have mentioned this yet.  Is it amazing, or the end of photography as we know it?

I've had a first play with it:

This was my original image - quite a pleasant scene, but it needs a focal point.

Attempt #1 - I asked Photoshop to add a woman in a red dress.  This is the result:

Quite impressive?  Attempt #2 - I asked for a woman in jeans and a red t-shirt:

Also pretty good, I thought.  
Unfortunately, zooming in showed up the limitations....  Pretty scary!

 

So, I think it's really impressive, but there's clearly a lot of scope for improvement.  It's still only in Beta though.

Having said that, as a camera club competition secretary, I am somewhat concerned over the implications for competition images in the future.
Our rules say that competition entries must be "all your own work" and an AI-generated object in the image clearly falls foul of that, but I'm not sure it's going to be possible to police that.
The alternative is to allow it, but that seems to me as defeating the object of taking photographs - we may as well just compare AI images.

What do you think?

 

 

Gareth

 

 

[Ryewolf]

Initially the images look good but... AI has been in the news (and not in mainstream media) for a while now and none of it good, I think a music website Deezer is actively removing AI generated music. As AI develops it may well create better 'images' than actual human artists. I'm pretty sure a couple of AI generated images won a Photography Awards. (Boris Eldagsen's image titled “The Electrician” took first place in a category at the World Photography Organization's Sony World Photography Awards but was AI generated.)

I'm against AI being used in any creative arts...

[Monkey]

I couldnt stop laughing 

[Ryewolf]

Yes, the results are funny, but in a few years time when AI is winning Photography Competitions, it's going to make forums like this redundant; so real people going out and taking actual photographs is going to be replaced by geeks using AI to bypass the actual physical process of going out to photograph something, with a "create me a sunset image of mountains with a woman in a red dress".....

[Monkey]

49 minutes ago, Ryewolf said:

Yes, the results are funny, but in a few years time when AI is winning Photography Competitions, it's going to make forums like this redundant; so real people going out and taking actual photographs is going to be replaced by geeks using AI to bypass the actual physical process of going out to photograph something, with a "create me a sunset image of mountains with a woman in a red dress".....

dont think i will be around when that happens 

[Hatter]

On 06/06/2023 at 23:56, Ryewolf said:

I'm against AI being used in any creative arts...

Agreed.  AI images will replace artists for things like album covers etc.

48 minutes ago, Ryewolf said:

but in a few years time when AI is winning Photography Competitions, it's going to make forums like this redundant;

As I said above, our camera club has a rule that competition entries must be 100% your own work.  This clearly bans use of Generative Fill but I think we're going to have to rely on trust - it's going to be very difficult to police.  

[Hatter]

10 minutes ago, Monkey said:

dont think i will be around when that happens

It's already happened!

This is what Bing can do with Ryewolf's text:

[Fogey]

Sorry Gareth, I disagree.  AI will never replace real life.  Everything I have seen here looks artificial, over-stylised and frankly, dead.

[Monkey]

4 hours ago, Fogey said:

Sorry Gareth, I disagree.  AI will never replace real life.  Everything I have seen here looks artificial, over-stylised and frankly, dead.

Have to agree those Bing images just dont look real. seem to be missing something, reminds me of when CDs came out in the 80s good but something missing and still is compared to vinyl 

[Hatter]

I hope you're both right!

 

[Ryewolf]

Please checkout this article about Boris Eldagasen's image that won that won the Open Creative Category at at Sony World Photography Awards

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/boris-eldagsen-photography-award-sony-ai-generated-images-dall-e-2286622

 

[JamesT]

Another relevant article from about a year ago on 35mmc https://www.35mmc.com/06/06/2022/hiking-the-uncanny-valley-by-don-goodman-wilson/ .