CAP & MUFFLER choices

[FUJI]

Choices, Choices?

Colour or Mono?

Mono or Colour?

A Street Portrait from today:

Best viewed LARGE.....Click on Pic:

FUJI

[FUJI]

Colour for me FUJI, I think that the mono treatment is just too much well in this case at least

 

Ron

 

Cheers Ron,

 

As you know, I am currently experimenting with Edgy, Gritty Processing..................further thoughts from anyone very welcome:

 

Looking at the colour version online, it looks to be a tad over saturated................someone recently told me that a touch of yellow can make a more natural looking portrait?....thoughts on that welcome too:

 

Cheers!

 

 

FUJI

[VWGolf]

Colour gets my vote  :-)

I'm not over fond of the gritty look for people - somehow makes them look dirty and could do with a good wash.  Sorry

[kev7d]

I'm falling on the side of the colour one in this instance. :)

[Korky]

Well, it's a bit like this.... Brace yourself for the mono verdict of the North West jury. That's er... me!

 

He's looks a very kindly gentleman. He's probably loved by his family and friends, enjoys a pint of real ale in the Rose and Crown, reads a popular daily newspaper (I forget its name, but you'll know the one I mean) and enjoys his fish 'n' chips on a Friday night. But you've processed the image as if he's the kind of mad mongrel who's just scorched into town with the Downright Nasty Chapter of the Hell's Angels.

 

I think the processing has to suit the subject and in this case, it just doesn't.

 

Whatever happened to that superb 'contrast grading' technique you were so evangelistic about? You were producing some excellent results with it and were well along the road of developing a real 'Fuji style'.

 

Your (possibly ex) friend Lord Korkington

[FUJI]

Well, it's a bit like this.... Brace yourself for the mono verdict of the North West jury. Me!

 

He's looks a very kindly gentleman. He's probably loved by his family and friends, enjoys a pint of real ale in the Rose and Crown, reads a popular daily newspaper (I forget its name, but you'll know the one I mean) and enjoys his fish 'n' chips on a Friday night. But you've processed the image as if he's the kind of mad mongrel who's just scorched into town with the Downright Nasty Chapter of the Hell's Angels.

 

I think the processing has to suit the subject and in this case, it just doesn't.

 

Whatever happened to that superb 'contrast grading' technique you were so evangelistic about? You were producing some excellent results with it and were well along the road of developing a real 'Fuji style'.

 

Your (possibly ex) friend Lord Korkington

Hi, M' Lud

Should you care to watch the video I posted earlier today, you will see that I have also been studying the art of honest comments and crits, so whatever you say will be taken on board then mulled over.

Very much like yourself sir, I have a strong creative streak, that can steer me onto new waters, to explore to sink or to swim......it appears that this time I am sinking, so will clamber out of the muddy waters to return to more familiar dabblings.

I enjoy my ventures into the unknown, they can be a bit like my old hobby of metal detecting........something good surfaces occassionaly.

Thank you too to other responders..........I will remove my foot from the grit and grot pedal, unless I find a gritty, grotty character.

Cheers!

FUJI

[Korky]

It'd be interesting if you gave this image the contrast grading process and then re-posted.

 

I think reactions will be very different.

 

Korky

[FUJI]

It'd be interesting if you gave this image the contrast grading process and then re-posted.

 

I think reactions will be very different.

 

Korky

In mono or colour KORKY........or both?

Cheers!

FUJI

[Korky]

Oh, what the hell, let's push the boat out. BOTH     

 

Korky

[Black Pearl]

The colour version works well, a touch to yellow in the highlights and possibly over saturated but a decent image none the less.

 

The mono one is not to my taste. 

If what you were going for is black & white 'only' with no middle tones then cool, you go with your gut feeling and stick to your intentions. If however you wanted to simply add some drama then in my opinion you need to reprocess the shot from the very start and make sure you retain considerably more of the middle ground tones while attacking at the structure/clarity slider with a little more finesse. 

[Cathy]

Colour for me as the black and white makes him look so much older

[Guest]

Have to agree with what everyone else has said,reminds me of my old club days when high contrast (no mid tones) b&w was a fad and I was glad when that passed.

[FUJI]

It's OK folks....calm down, calm down....old FUJI is over his fad....(I think;-)

 

If I hadnt watched that Music/Gritty Mono YouTube vid, then none of this would have happened.....no apologies, I can flit from idea to idea very quickly, then return to it to achiev more refined results once things have sunk in.

 

I am currently working on the versions Korky requested.

 

 

All your feedback was very useful....Thanks!

 

FUJI

[ChrisLumix]

Sorry, no time to read earlier answers

 

For me, the colour looks fine, though a tad over-saturated? The mono looks awful (sorry to be so blunt) - can't see where you were going with that?

[Korky]

Creative people have ideas all the time - there's never a guarantee that they'll be good ideas, though.

 

I once started work on a radio script that I thought was brilliant - I showed it to a friend (a writer whose work I respect) and when he'd read it through, his comment was "why not just stick to what you're good at?" I was devastated at first, but slowly it dawned on me that his honesty was just what I needed and I went back to the funny monologues.

 

Keep being creative, Fooj - we like you just as you are!

 

Korky

[FUJI]

OK folks...................

 

What Korky asks for Korky gets......................

 

One Contrast Graded colour version.

 

and

 

One Contrast Graded Mono version.

 

I think they have worked?

 

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FUJI

 

P.S. looking at the colour version, after compressing for uploading I notice that it too looks a bit over saturated...but it Doesnt on my newly calibrated monitor in the saved full size one....does compression for posting mess with colour profiles?

 

 

[Black Pearl]

If your colour space on your system is sRBG and you save the same as a JPEG then they will be very close. If you're running AdobeRGB it may change but it shouldn't be dramatic.

[FUJI]

If your colour space on your system is sRBG and you save the same as a JPEG then they will be very close. If you're running AdobeRGB it may change but it shouldn't be dramatic.

Thanks Robin.....As far as I know, I use the Default Adobe profile.

But what do you think of the portraits now?

Cheers!

FUJI

[Korky]

The mono processing now suits the subject perfectly - very nice indeed.

 

The colour version does look a bit over-saturated. I too have experienced uploads being quite a bit different from the finished image - no idea why. In my case they are usually darker.

 

I'd be interested to hear how you view the new mono edit compared to your first one.

 

Korky

[FUJI]

I was pretty happy with the guest colour one Korky..........

But the mono was definitely overcooked.......blame it on that music/mono processing video I posted......

I might return to the gritty grotty world one day......it has a certain appeal given the right subject?

FUJI

[Korky]

I might return to the gritty grotty world one day

 

Yorkshire? 

[kev7d]

Yorkshire?

Grrrrrr. That's worse than saying NIKON! ;)

[Guest]

The mono one is fine but the colour one still looks like it has to much vibrant red in the skin tones for me Fuji.

 

Had a play with it using a little hdr on it, see what you think.

 

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[FUJI]

I like that a lot Paul................I didn't think he would suit that treatment....but he does!

 

Thanks!

 

FUJI