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[Leon]

Phil I borrowed your picture hope you don't mind?

 

when taking, editing pictures my greens seem all grainy and grey, I went out getting some shots yesterday of the sunset using ISO100 but they still seem grey, is it that my camera sensor just does not have the dynamic range?

 

I even tried bracketing then merging the three images but the same thing happened again.... I'd like to be able to get the greens like phil did in his picture below....

[Phil]

No objection at all to you using the image as an example. Trouble is, if you asked me to recreate it I'm not sure I could, this one went through the mill several times with PS plugins. Original below.

It's best if you posted your own image(s) so we can better guide you through the workflow, or even say if your settings could be improved upon. Add your settings too if you could, also if shot in RAW.

[Leon]

there's that raw thing again!!

 

I' might go back tonight id the sky looks nice and try again, Ill post the images I have later when I'v finished my jobs

[Phil]

there's that raw thing again!!

​Seriously mate, you need to be shooting RAW. Had the image above not been shot in RAW, there's no way I could have dragged so much from it

[Barbara]

 

Not a very good image, It was a first at  trying out the new TZ60 and badly under exposed

I know a lot of us keep batting on about RAW but with even a few simple adjustments (I use LR5) I can get from this

to This

 with this

Just a Crop, add exposure, touch contrast, lift the blacks, add Clarity & touch Vibrance, Sharpen & Mask. 

Edited May 4, 2015 by Barbara

[NannyFerret]

I had a go this afternoon too, Barbara.
I used Aperture Priority set to 3.3 and the 3cm Macro setting.
My flowers came out dark,
 I really like the second version.
I had to be carful not to get my shadow on the subject.
I found the camera a lot easier to keep steady than my DSLR.

[Leon]

 

off topic!!!! (where's the smiley gone?

 

I'm trying to rescue greens in an image...... is it the sensor or my lack of skills?

[Barbara]

 

off topic!!!! (where's the smiley gone?

 

I'm trying to rescue greens in an image...... is it the sensor or my lack of skills?

​Just trying to explain the advantages of using RAW files

Edited May 4, 2015 by Barbara

[Guest]

Leon, post the file and if we cant save the greens then you can be fairly sure its the image not your editing skills.

 

[geodar]

hi leon, when it is duskish try using a flash, lowish setting should 'pop'/'boost' the green grass if you are finding them dark.

geoff

[colinb]

Phil I borrowed your picture hope you don't mind?

 

when taking, editing pictures my greens seem all grainy and grey, I went out getting some shots yesterday of the sunset using ISO100 but they still seem grey, is it that my camera sensor just does not have the dynamic range?

 

​Probably your editing skills I too thought your sunset (posted in another thread) looked dirty/grey. Using photoshop is a skill as much as using your camera.

[Craftysnapper]

Leon you have little chance of getting detail out of a dark shadow area like that in a jpeg without it being grainy and I'm pretty sure it was dark with little detail in the grass as you probably exposed for the sky.

In situations like this it is best to shoot raw and expose to the right as far as you can then pull back detail in the shadow and highlight areas in your raw converter.

It is surprising what you can do with a correctly exposed raw image.

Before and after in LR6

 

Edited May 5, 2015 by craftysnapper

[ChrisLumix]

 

when taking, editing pictures my greens seem all grainy and grey, I went out getting some shots yesterday of the sunset using ISO100 but they still seem grey, is it that my camera sensor just does not have the dynamic range?

​

​Don't ignore one crucial factor : a sunset is heavily biased towards the red/orange part of the spectrum, which while not the direct opposite of green, will still suppress it. The only EASY way to counteract that is to choose the Saturation/Hue dialogue in Photoshop, select "Green", and then dramatically boost saturation for greens only. 

Edited May 5, 2015 by ChrisLumix

[ChrisLumix]

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Admins - help!!!!!

The editing function is completely up the spout. I quoted Leon's original post, but when I tried to delete some of it, it threw me out of the topic. When I used 'Go back' it returned me to the PREVIOUS topic I was in. When I then used 'Go forward', it returned me to the New Contents list which didn't include Leon's topic.

So... I had to find Leon's topic using Search, then edit VERY CAREFULLY to avoid being thrown out by the software. However, the quoted portion was just a blank box, nothing in it. So I tried to put the quoted bit back using edit, but it's just added it below my comment, not put it in the 'quote' box which is still empty. (In fact, in the version I can see now, the part of Leon's post which I copied and pasted using Edit, isn't there at all now!!) What's worse, it's created several duplicates of my post.

Edited May 5, 2015 by ChrisLumix

[Leon]

tonight when I sit down quiet I'll post the images I want to rescue/sort out.

 

thanks for the tips

[Phil]

The editing function is completely up the spout.

​Have you tried again since this? 

Please remember that the Backspace key has the same effect as Back in a web browser if no text (or blinking cursor) is selected. I'm not saying that's what's happened here, just a thought.

[ChrisLumix]

The problem is like the old forum software, only worse. There, if you did a backspace (even with stuff selected) and you were near the beginning of the quote box, it threw you out.

The new software is worse. You get thrown out, you find the topic, go back in and quote again, and this time, it's quoted TWICE , one within the other! And you don't need to be near the beginning of the quote box now, to get thrown out, just backspace to clear spaces BELOW the bit you want to keep, is enough to do it. 

[Leon]

where's that "OFF TOPIC" ICON AGAIN?

 

please argue elsewhere  

[Guest]

stop talking about emoticons thats   lets talk about Leons file he is going to upload for us to edit 

[Leon]

lol.... to upload it I have to resize it... or post a link... links don't seem to work without breaking the forum rules.....

[Phil]

Just link to the full size image in Flickr. Remember to start another thread, should it start to go  I'll delete the posts.