Phil

Well done, Kev!

Totally useless!
I've just had the below online chat with an Adobe rep. He took control of my machine, adjusted a few settings, then finishes by telling me it's a trait of the latest versions of LR and PS and I'm stuck with not exporting what I'm seeing in both programs.
This is the latter 2 thirds of the conversation, the first was in a different chat window before he took control.

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Date: 2018-02-06 17:42:54 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Bomgar
    AMANDEEP KAUR can now have full access to customer's computer.
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:43:42 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Bomgar
    AMANDEEP KAUR is performing task: Color Management
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:44:16 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    please try now
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:44:27 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    Ok, one sec
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:45:32 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    Are you able to see that the colours are different?
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:45:51 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    yes
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:47:00 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    could you please create a new test catalog and import some images to it and check them
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:47:19 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    I can try
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:49:50 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    ** New catalogue created ** - Still the same
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:50:46 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    well if you compare the pictures of lightroom with windows photo viewer slight difference will be there
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:51:04 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    One sec
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:52:19 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    That's Paint not photo viewer. As I said in my initial request, I've never had this problem before
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:53:13 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    It's the same within a borswer too, Chrome or Microsoft Edge
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:54:13 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Bomgar
    AMANDEEP KAUR is performing task: Color Management
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:54:58 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    please restart your machine.
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:55:13 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    What about the chat?
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:56:15 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    session get's reconnected
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:56:28 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    Ok
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:56:44 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Bomgar
    AMANDEEP KAUR has stopped viewing the customer's screen.
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:58:37 SGT
To: All Customers
From: Bomgar
    A secure encrypted SSL connection has been established.
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:58:38 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Bomgar
    AMANDEEP KAUR can now have full access to customer's computer.
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:59:20 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    now try
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Date: 2018-02-06 17:59:29 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    Ok
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:00:55 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    Still the same I'm afraid
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:01:43 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    Please allow me 3-4 minutes here
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:01:56 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    No problem at all
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:01:59 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    Let me check my resources to help you with this
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:06:42 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    Phil i would like to inform you that this is expected behavior with this version of lightroom
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:07:03 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    I already changed the monitor profile but that doesn't fixed this issue
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:07:20 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    And Photoshop, that is doing the same?
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:07:41 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    let me check
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:09:24 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    So how can I reliably edit a photo if what I see in LR is not what will be exported?
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:10:04 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    you can caliberate your monitor
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:11:23 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    It already is calibrated, and done regularly for a few years now. Even if it wasn't calibrated the 2 images should match, surely?
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:13:34 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    well ideally this much difference will be there if you compare your images with paint or photo viewer from.
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:14:39 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    I have to say that I'm a little disappointed. There should be no differnce between images, as it has always been in the passed.
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:17:06 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    I can understand your concern and really apologize for this inconvenience.
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:18:16 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    So I can no longer use either LR or PS for editing my images because the outcome will be different from what I see within the program.
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:18:43 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    I am not saying that but i think you should calibrate your machine
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:19:07 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    As I've already said, it is calibrated, in fact it was done on Sunday.
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:20:33 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    ok
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:23:05 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    please leave the mouse
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:23:20 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    I'm not touching it
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:24:11 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    what about now
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:24:18 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    still color difference is there
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:24:29 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    I'll check
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:26:06 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    Yes, there's still a saturation difference
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:27:48 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    because this is expected behavior.
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:28:06 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    So you can't help me?
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:33:29 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    well i have already tried possible steps to fix this problem
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:33:45 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    but changing the monitor profile is not helping
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:33:53 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Phil Hunter
    Ok, thank you for your help
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:33:57 SGT
To: Everyone
From: Bomgar
    AMANDEEP KAUR has stopped viewing the customer's screen.
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:33:58 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    you're welcome
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Date: 2018-02-06 18:34:06 SGT
To: Everyone
From: AMANDEEP KAUR
    anything else for noW?
 

Well done, Kev! 

On 03/02/2018 at 18:14, David61 said:

I never save for the web after using LR6 and PSE 15 as once I am happy with the edit I resize then Save As.

I use 'Save As' so I can control the file size, besides, Save As is the same. I don't think the problem is the saving, I think it's the way Adobe is displaying the images, colour space etc.

23 hours ago, Clicker said:

Are you using  chrome as your browser by any chance?   

Indeed I am.

This has driven me mad for a couple of weeks now, I can only assume it is related to Adobe's updates at the time. I'd appreciate any help you can offer.

As you can see from the PS screenshot, using the Save For Web option has increased the saturation. The same is happening with LR, the image on the left is the exported version of what you see within LR.

Photoshop

Lightroom

I have 2 Yongnuos, both have never let me down, although they are the cheaper ones without TTL. Spend a few more quid (still less than your £100 budget) and get a Yongnuo with compatible TTL and you'll be quids in, compared to Canon's 430EX or the 560EX (I've owned both).

On 28/01/2018 at 15:01, colinb said:

As I and others have noted the 'new posts' soon get lost dropping out of view. I think recent items need to be just that not a link to a blank page waiting for todays 52 etc entries etc which can often be the only things on view as member postings have been pushed down.

Missed this, sorry, Colin.
The only answer here is to remove the Recent Topics box. I'm not sure how many members actually use it, I certainly do not, I tend to scroll down looking for highlighted icons where I know there is unread content. With that said, I am Admin and it's my duty to ensure nothing is amiss. 

I'm not 100% sure how to respond to these comments but I'll give it a go.

10 hours ago, colinb said:

So - do we need to look at the 'like' as 'read' and if you do look and don't wish to comment tick the dam thing so the poster at least knows someone care enough to look?

I can't rename the button, all I can is remove it altogether. I'll be honest here, I don't click the button if I don't like the image, if I feel I can give constructive criticism I do.
I don't think even Beepy or Korky are aware but I can see who viewed an image, at what time and how many times they returned. I can say with confidence that the vast majority of images posted are viewed, whether someone feels compelled to comment is up to the individual.

9 hours ago, Rick448 said:

I'm not sure if this forum allows the number of views to be shown as I have seen on many others.

We can, but we don't. This is another issue that cropped up a few years ago which we elected to do away with.

WORK 

Well done, Rye 

4 hours ago, Korky said:

Phil's goggles must've been steamed up

I'll have you know that, according to my last eye test in 1987, I have 20/20 vision!

Spot the difference.

It must have been said, Dave, that you have a look of Bryan Cranston?

Always good to put a face to a name 

MRS - 

BATTLE

FRIENDS - Surely a dog to walk and a camera to use?

ADHESIVE - Don't you have work to go to? 

STICK

POOL

STONE

I believe I already follow you.

I don't Follow anyone religiously, mainly wedding photographers (purely because I shot a couple last year (weddings that is, not photographers)). I've also had my fill of gear freaks; Jason Lanier, Karl Taylor etc., they seriously wind me up so I don't view there work anymore!

The vast majority of those I follow have stemmed from YouTube.
A random selection I follow and aspire to:

Thomas Heaton - He has a seriously good YouTube channel.
Simon Baxter - Landscape photographer who also has a good YouTube channel.
Both the Northrups, Tony and Chelsea - An acquired taste but I enjoy 'em, also on YouTube.
Irene Rudnyk - A very good natural light portrait photographer, also on YouTube.
Elena Karneeva - Brilliant portrait photographer and PS editor. If she has a YouTube channel I'd probably need a translator.
Robin Hunter - God knows why!

5 hours ago, James23p said:

I had to take a deep breath since this is some of the very issues we have on the site I am the admin on.

I believe it's the trait of forums in general, far too many members are keen to display their work and sit back to await praise/crit etc. without taking the time to comment on other topics. Participation, it's the key to any successful forum, if TIPF didn't have its stalwarts it would have disappeared into the mire many moons ago.

BTW, there are 2 Us in 'humor'  

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